The Other Side of the Glass

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Monday, January 08, 2007

"The the sky blue, grass is green, and the sun is yellow.

And they are natural and work together to support the planet and each of us. We don't need to interrupt them or improve them to make rain, air, food, or energy. We trust them even though sometimes nature creates storms and catastrophes that can kill us."

"NO!, you are lying, nature is not capable, and you are not trained or educated to know how this works", says the blogger on homebirthdebate.

The blogger on homebirthdate has taunted and ridiculed a well-respected author and researcher of obstetric medicine, Henci Goer, to debate with her about one itty bitty piece of literature that even other OB's cite in their discussion of the need to lower the cesarean rate. The author wisely declines knowing from her own online discussion board it is not a dialog or even debate, but a repeated attack. What is this blogger's beef, as she argues an elementary "fact" to a point of absurdity, never winning while claiming to? Arguing against the colors blue, green, yellow, and even more emphatically against the claims of beauty and diversity in the shades of colors. The sky is grey and at night it is pink and purple. Grass can be brown and even blue. The sun can be white to yellow to orange. Declarations of beauty and appreciation, like birth is intimate, birth is ecstatic, or birth is natural are the observations of the experience of the natural beauty. The colors weren't the main point.

The point was there is no separation of the sky, the sun, and the land. The point is the human being is made to reproduce and there is a natural, divine order to it. It all works together because of laws of nature. Science confirms and learns new things everyday and changes previous beliefs and findings. How the things in nature function,well, naturally, without our thought or effort, and by some divine order beyond humans, and, how when we mess with nature, we create a ripple effect of disorder in our lives -- that's the point of the discussion about homebirth versus hospital birth. Not constant disagreement of the colors. Like the blogger would ever see a changing shade of blue, green, or yellow.

Yesterday I posted an article by an OB who is an integrative physician in support of the midwifery model of care (and cited the Johnson, Daviss study) and alternative medicine. He gave examples of successful alternatives he uses in his (quite successful) practice. Low and behold, the blogger who won't answer my questions about drug research, while trashing a reputable author, today has posted an article against alternative medicine. Cherry-pickin' some folks have called it when she does this. Arguing about color, not process. I call it out and out denial of the subject and a DISTRACTION of the masses from the TRUTH by one who benefits from the lambs blindly following --- and that TRUTH is that hospital birth is dangerous BECAUSE of the misuse of drugs and interventions and the violating, unconscious care of the human beings, in particular, the newborn.

Yet, the blogger won't have a discussion with me, or the public, about the use of unresearched and misused drugs and treatment of women and babies (and the emotional, physical, spiritual, and psychological lifelong consequences to the human baby). She won't have that discussion with Henci Goer either. Henci's got the information. The blogger knows it. Better to argue that the sky is always blue, simply blue.

My information and research about the how the baby is affected by the medical and technological interventions were immediately deleted on homebirthdebate, and I was banned. I have to wonder ---I have asked (her or any one) repeatedly since May for the RESEARCH and SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that shows that the DRUGS USED IN LABOR AND BIRTH -- EVER used -- were shown to be safe before using. I wonder why she won't directly address this?

Specifically, where is the research that shows that ether was safe, that "saddle blocks" were safe, that the "twighlight" cocktail was safe, that scopalamine was safe, that bovine oxytocin was safe, that Demerol was safe, that bupivacaine (and others it is compared to see which is less harmful AFTER use) was safe, that cytotec was safe BEFORE USING when we are birthing a brand new baby. And, why are they continued to be used when shown unsafe (ie., epidural, cytotec) until the lambs believe they are not only safe, but even "natural."? Hospital birth is as natural as the ski resorts where they make snow -- even in Iowa! It's not real snow and one can ski, but I understand skiers and snowboarders prefer real snow. You can go to Tan World and become a weird shade of something, or you can buy a chicken grown in fifteen days with hormones and antibiotics (rather than grain and grass in eight weeks). We can't replicate what Mother Nature is and does, or how or why.

In October I posted research from the late eighties and early 90's that clearly showed the detrimental and life-threatening effects of epidural anesthesia on the mother and her birthing baby on the homebirthdebate blog and it was deleted. THIS info was JUST about during labor, birth, and neonatally when the hospital is in control and vigilant (responsible) - that neonatal stage, not the first year of entire life of human. I also posted info and links about the leaders in the multidisciplinary field of pre and perinatal psych and development and their developing techniques for resolving the trauma of birth. They were deleted and I was banned.

On this blog this weekend I also posted links to a documentary, "What Babies Want" at featuring these folks and a neurobiologist'

What color is the sky, the grass, or the sun? Does it really matter what shades a person sees? What matters is what they mean to us on this planet. They are natural and they work together to support this planet that nurtures and sustains us. We could get into the science of how that is -- we all learned it in elementary and junior high. We "know" it," believe" it, and "trust" it that somehow this cycle of relationships between these things will continue to provide us with oxygen, water, our food source, and sun rays. Believing in nature's design for a man and woman to conceive, grow, and birth a baby is like believing the sun will shine, and the rains will come, and the grass will grow, and experience tells us it does so better when we humans don't interfere.

When we mess with the things of nature we get bad results -- as seen in our food, air, and water sources now. Natural birth is just part of growing inner knowing that we must stop what we are doing -- thankfully, now many doctors and other scientists are looking at this. Too many people in too many places are confirming alternative and integrative medicine --- especially patients! -- for one little ole blogger to "change" that with her distraction of the truth. Many scientists from many disciplines are putting together the pieces of the puzzle that show us that the human baby's experience of birth is remembered and that it affects one for life.

Non-medically needed induction and the use of narcotics and epidural, and surgical birth (without even getting into the unconscious, rough, disrespectful care and the control that leads to women being powerless in the medical machines conveyor belt of birth) is wrecking havoc with humanity. NEVER were these shown to be safe for the baby and mom, and now any attempt to look retrospectively at the aftermath is viciously, dogmatically opposed by a blogger who is anti-natural and homebirth.

Yaaaaaaaawn...... until she can:

SHOW ME the RESEARCH that shows that ANY DRUG, but in particular drugs and substances for INDUCTION and EPIDURAL drugs were EVER STUDIED and SHOWN to be SAFE for the WOMAN and the BABY BEFORE USING and over time becoming STANDARD PROTOCOL that we now -- those misled -- have to prove is wrong.


Heather B said...

In order to test the drugs and do studies, they had to use the drugs. It is impossible to ever test and study a drug before using it. Someone has to be the guinea pig!

Safe Baby Partners said...

That's right, and a newborn baby is unable to give consent to be a part of a research project. A woman choosing narcotics for pain relief is choosing for her child.

Adults can choose to be subjects in drug studies, and they do die and are harmed in the process. What we know of cocaine and narcotc use and affects of the adult brain can be extrapolated to tell us a newborn or child should not used narcotics. Many folks know now that narcotics for ADHD is not the best, not effective, and further harms the brain. Drug-free therapies are must sought after. Perhaps, children who need narcotics for hyperactivity, etc are children who had narcotics in birth. The incidence rise together.

We can look at the research on epidural from the eighties and 90's and expect medicine and society to stop promoting it as safe.

We can look retrospectively, with scientific methods to look at the people who experienced certain interventions in birth -- induction, drugs, saddleblock, forceps, fetal scalp monitoring, monitoring,and many other situations, ARM, waiting for the doctor to arrive, journey birthing with mother supine vs otherwise.

Everything that happened during labor and birth is as much a part of the baby's neural programming as pre and postnatal experiences. Human emotions are varied from fear to love -- we don't shut down the ability to feel fear and violation and still experience joy and love, at any age. Neither does the birthing baby. He or she feels and records EVERYTHING.

WHen birth is "under the influence" of drugs this is a neural programming for the need for drugs.

The information is out there to suggest, no demand, further that psychology and medicine do studies to look at the impact of everything done to the baby.

"Soft is the heart of a child. Do not harden it."

A public awareness reminder that things that happen behind the scenes, out of our sight, aren't always as rosy as we might think them to be. Perhaps its a restaurant cook who accidentally drops your burger on the floor before placing it on the bun and serving it to you. Here it's an overworked apathetic (pathetic) nurse giving my newborn daughter her first bath. Please comment and rate this video, so as to insure that it is viewed as widely as possible, perhaps to prevent other such abuse. -- The mother who posted this YouTube. How NOT to wash a baby on YouTube Are you going to try to tell me that "babies don't remember?" There is no difference to this baby's experience and the imprinting of her nervous system/brain and one that is held and cleaned by the mother or father either at the hospital or at home? By the way, this is probably NOT the baby's first bath. The nurse is ungloved. Medical staff protocol is that they can't handle a baby ungloved until is has been bathed (scrubbed if you've seen it) because the baby is a BIO-HAZARD -- for them. Never mind that the bio-hazard IS the baby's first line of defense against hospital germs.

Missouri Senator Louden Speaks

Finally, A Birth Film for Fathers

Part One of the "The Other Side of the Glass: Finally, A Birth Film for and about Men" was released June, 2013.

Through presentation of the current research and stories of fathers, the routine use of interventions are questioned. How we protect and support the physiological need of the human newborn attachment sequence is the foundation for creating safe birth wherever birth happens.

Based on knowing that babies are sentient beings and the experience of birth is remembered in the body, mind, and soul, fathers are asked to research for themselves what is best for their partner and baby and to prepare to protect their baby.

The film is designed for midwives, doulas, and couples, particularly fathers to work with their caregivers. Doctors and nurses in the medical environment are asked to "be kind" to the laboring, birthing baby, and newborn. They are called to be accountable for doing what science has been so clear about for decades. The mother-baby relationship is core for life. Doctors and nurses and hospital caregivers and administrators are asked to create protocols that protect the mother-baby relationship.

Men are asked to join together to address the vagaries of the medical system that harm their partner, baby and self in the process of the most defining moments of their lives. Men are asked to begin to challenge the system BEFORE they even conceive babies as there is no way to be assured of being able to protect his loved ones once they are in the medical machine, the war zone, on the conveyor belt -- some of the ways that men describe their journey into fatherhood in the medicine culture.

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The film focuses on the male baby, his journey from the womb to the world and reveals healing and integrating the mother, father, and baby's wounded birth experience. The film is about the restoring of our families, society, and world through birthing loved, protected, and nurtured males (and females, of course). It's about empowering males to support the females to birth humanity safely, lovingly, and consciously.

Finally, a birth film for fathers.

What People Are Saying About the FIlm

Well, I finally had a chance to check out the trailer and .. wow! It's nice that they're acknowledging the father has more than just cursory rights (of course mom's rights are rarely acknowledged either) and it's great that they're bringing out the impact of the experience on the newborn, but I'm really impressed that they're not shying away from the political side.

They are rightly calling what happens in every American maternity unit, every day, by its rightful name - abuse. Abuse of the newborn, abuse of the parents and their rights, abuse of the supposedly sacrosanct ethical principal of patient autonomy and the medico-legal doctrine of informed consent, which has been long ago discarded in all but name. I love it!

In the immortal words of the "shrub", "bring it on!" This film needs to be shown and if I can help facilitate or promote it, let me know.

Father in Asheville, NC

OMG'ess, I just saw the trailer and am in tears. This is so needed. I watch over and over and over as fathers get swallowed in the fear of hospitals birth practice. I need a tool like this to help fathers see how very vital it is for them to protect their partner and baby. I am torn apart every time I see a father stand back and chew his knuckle while his wife is essentially assaulted or his baby is left to lie there screaming.
Please send me more info!!!!
Carrie Hankins
CD(DONA), CCCE, Aspiring Midwife

Thanks for sharing this. It was very touching to me. I thought of my brother-in-law standing on the other side of the glass when my sister had to have a C-section with her first child because the doctor was missing his golf date. I'll never forget his pacing back and forth and my realizing that he was already a father, even though he hadn't been allowed to be with his son yet.

Margaret, Columbia, MO

In case you don't find me here

Soon, I'll be back to heavy-duty editing and it will be quiet here again. I keep thinking this blog is winding down, and then it revives. It is so important to me.

I wish I'd kept a blog of my journey with this film this past 10 months. It's been amazing.

I have a new blog address for the film, and will keep a journal of simple reporting of the journey for the rest of the film.

I'll be heading east this week to meet with a group of men. I plan to post pictures and clips on the film blog.

I'll keep up here when I can -- when I learn something juicy, outrageous, or inspiring related to making birth safer for the birthing baby.

Review of the film

Most of us were born surrounded by people who had no clue about how aware and feeling we were. This trailer triggers a lot of emotions for people if they have not considered the baby's needs and were not considered as a baby. Most of us born in the US were not. The final film will include detailed and profound information about the science-based, cutting-edge therapies for healing birth trauma.

The full film will have the interviews of a wider spectrum of professionals and fathers, and will include a third birth, at home, where the caregivers do a necessary intervention, suctioning, while being conscious of the baby.

The final version will feature OBs, RNs, CNMs, LM, CPM, Doulas, childbirth educators, pre and perinatal psychologists and trauma healing therapists, physiologists, neurologists, speech therapists and lots and lots of fathers -- will hopefully be done in early 2009.

The final version will include the science needed to advocated for delayed cord clamping, and the science that shows when a baby needs to be suctioned and addresses other interventions. Experts in conscious parenting will teach how to be present with a sentient newborn in a conscious, gentle way -- especially when administering life-saving techniques.

The goal is to keep the baby in the mother's arms so that the baby gets all of his or her placental blood and to avoid unnecessary, violating, and abusive touch and interactions. When we do that, whether at home or hospital, with doctor or midwife, the birth is safe for the father. The "trick" for birthing men and women is how to make it happen in the hospital.

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Colin speaks out about interventions at birth