tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post2292868615384653414..comments2023-10-31T10:52:44.454-05:00Comments on Making Birth Safe in the US. (aka Hospital Birth Debate): Dangers of Homebirth Blog - My PerspectiveBaby Keeperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13771156154070579302noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-79312370557362589362006-12-18T20:47:00.000-06:002006-12-18T20:47:00.000-06:00Janel, I will post articles about UC in the future...Janel, I will post articles about UC in the future. Stick with me; I'm sure after hanging with me a while, you will at least be more comfortable with the concept. I know it seems very far out at first; it did to me, too. It's not for everyone--only for those who can take the responsibility to fully prepare and accept the consequences. Like the other poster said, UC is NOT safe for everyone.<br /><br />You are right about one thing: it is HUGE. Many UCers will say birth is no more profound than any other part of life, like eating, but I disagree. I think it is profound and is to be respected, not underestimated. It is the most powerful experience of a woman's lifetime. You have to really keep an eye on yourself, prepare yourself, etc., and I don't think some people do it as well as they believe they can. :/Heather B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07344763698496729767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-17825294019892935602006-12-18T02:26:00.000-06:002006-12-18T02:26:00.000-06:00Thanks, I'll email you the story too so you have i...Thanks, I'll email you the story too so you have it in an easy format. If you ever read anything in my blog that you want to use just let me know.<br /><br />I know of a Heather online who is planning a UC, I wonder if it's the same one. =)sneakmastergeneralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16527257956680462981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-85954040374400100622006-12-18T01:59:00.000-06:002006-12-18T01:59:00.000-06:00You are welcome. I am glad you found it too. I loo...You are welcome. I am glad you found it too. I look forward to reading your story. <br /><br />I totally believe that birth is so important that the best thing one can do is what you described -- heal your own stuff, for the first birth and for every one. I suspect if women were to do the INNER work that you describe, that birth at home, hospital, or birth center would be much easier for most women. <br /><br />I have observed that at about 5-7 cm the "failure to progress" is usually the woman's emotional issues. The hospital is glad to step in and a woman is all too glad to drug the isuse -- and so it doesn't get resolved. Cesarean just compounds it all, and the denial of the effects of csection don't help a woman get out of the spin. <br /><br />I look foward to the discussions about this. <br /><br /><br />thanks. janelBaby Keeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13771156154070579302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-90002396120579321342006-12-18T01:30:00.000-06:002006-12-18T01:30:00.000-06:00My entire birth story is posted in my blog and you...My entire birth story is posted in my blog and you are completely welcome to republish it here. I will be adding thoughts and feelings as time goes on and a newborn and toddler allow of course. <br /><br />I do not believe that UC or UBACs are totally safe for everyone. It depends on your level of comfort and what kind of environment you feel safest in. I spent a very very long time healing from the trauma of my son's birth and working towards where I am now and where I still have to go. The birth was really only a part of my journey. <br /><br />I will say that to have a UC one really needs to work on themselves and their own fears. I spent a lot of time considering every possible scenario, and I mean everything, then researching it to the ground, learning the facts, and then dealing with my emotions that followed. It took over a year but ultimately I knew that it was the best and safest option to birth my daughter and I won't hesitate to do it again with my future children unless my intuition tells me otherwise. <br /><br />Thanks for the opportunity to write here, I'll be checking in a lot, so glad I found this blog. =)sneakmastergeneralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16527257956680462981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-46569463084864620152006-12-18T01:15:00.000-06:002006-12-18T01:15:00.000-06:00CreepyUCmama --
Congratulations on the new baby a...CreepyUCmama --<br /><br />Congratulations on the new baby and you gave birth unassisted after a cesarean? Wow. <br />I have to tell you -- I just don't know what I think about unassisted. Planned unassisted is just so rare, and honestly it's scary to me. Homebirth was too once upon a time, until I realized my need to be in the hospital for my last three was actually because of the doctor-induced traumatic first birth. The trauma serves so many women to create or reinforce that message that birth is dangerous. I remember the moment and conversation when I realized that. <br /><br />I am first and foremost an advocate for safe birth -- and I believe that the birth is the baby's, and I trust a woman's inner wisdom to know how to birth her baby. I know mother's are guided to make choices that are from the baby -- what the baby wants. Like the story you responded to. <br /><br />UBAC seems so huge to me. I'd like to learn more about it. Heather, the co-moderator here is planning to give birth unassisted -- would love to have more information here, if you ever want to contribute. <br /><br />Early on I invited others to post articles, so feel free to do that. you can send to me at janel underscore miranda at yahoo dot com. <br /><br />Thanks for adding us to your blog list.<br /><br />JanelBaby Keeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13771156154070579302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-32830167998089664962006-12-18T00:18:00.000-06:002006-12-18T00:18:00.000-06:00I wish I had known about this blog ages ago, I add...I wish I had known about this blog ages ago, I added you to my blogroll. I just had a UBAC myself and am always horrified to hear all the hospital birth stories, especially thinking back to my own with my first.sneakmastergeneralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16527257956680462981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-15665872622320199632006-12-17T21:40:00.000-06:002006-12-17T21:40:00.000-06:00Niamh --
My God. I am so sorry. There is so much ...Niamh --<br /><br />My God. I am so sorry. There is so much to say -- and acknowledge. Your story brought tears. <br /><br />Home or hospital -- so many things can and do happen in labor and birth. The very least we all can do -- for a woman and her baby -- is to work towards the common goal of providing a safe, peaceful, respectful environment.<br /><br />The doctor and nurses you encountered are the ones who need to know the information about the awareness of the newborn. They are the ones who will resist it the most. How could they begin to feel the depths of what they have done to so many babies and women?<br /><br />My post tomorrow -- I have been delayed in posting it. It is time. It addresses somewhat what you have shared -- the women who stand by, with eyes averted and those who participate in the abuse of women. <br /><br />A big message from your story is the need to have a midwife provider who is in relationship with a physician and the hospital, and to have a supportive pediatrician for the baby. I can't say enough good things about the www.HomeFirst.com group in Chicago. It's a model.<br /><br />I wish your little one a very safe and peaceful birthing into your arms. <br /><br />JanelBaby Keeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13771156154070579302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-17245798147245733812006-12-17T21:23:00.000-06:002006-12-17T21:23:00.000-06:00Oh God, I am so sorry I forgot to mention this - I...Oh God, I am so sorry I forgot to mention this - I was an hbac and that was part of the reason I was treated so badly I'm sure. <br /><br />I was refused vbac in the hospital, as it was banned for legal purposes.<br />NAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37709909.post-43352727203640335482006-12-17T21:15:00.000-06:002006-12-17T21:15:00.000-06:00I just wanted to comment on the reasons one might ...I just wanted to comment on the reasons one might delay transfer if possible. I am sure that the treatment I received was quite extreme but I just wanted to show what OBs are capable of and can get away with when it comes to how they treat home birth transfers.<br /><br />I transferred for help with a persistent cervical lip. The OB on call first screamed and cursed at me for attempting a homebirth. He then lied to me, belittled me and downright abused me until he got me to sign the concent for surgery. <br /><br />No attempt was made to help me deliver vaginally. The whole time this man ranted, the rest of the hospital staff either averted their eyes or looked at the floor. <br /><br />When I asked why I couldn't try to birth vaginally the OB shoved his ARM into me and began to roughly feel my already swollen cervix. When I screamed in pain and begged him to stop, he refused to stop, choosing to completely ignore me and instead speak to several other people in the room about "homebirth nuts." He didn't even didn't look at me, even as I continued to howl in pain.<br /><br />When I continured to try to argue that I wanted to try to birth vaginally and that from what I could see the baby was fine (moniter was right there), he told me my baby wouldn't come out of my vagina alive while shaking the concent form and his fist in my face. <br /><br />He left me alone for a while so he could "regain his calm" and I tried pathetically to push dd out before they could force me into a section. During this, my gown had fallen down several times. I did not care about who saw my breasts, I desperately wanted to have my baby safely. <br /><br />As I recovered from the section EVERY SINGLE nurse who came into my room not only lectured me and chided me for attempting to birth at home but most also mentioned my "scandelous" nudity, whether they saw it firsthand or had heard about it. They all NEEDED to put me - the homebirth nut - in my place in any way they could.<br /><br />When they did wheel me in to get the spinal for the c-section the anest. doctor screamed when I contorted trying to deal with a contraction "curl over NOW, we don't wait for f*cking contractions in here!"<br /><br />A nurse commented when entering the OR while I was being closed up "whew, you did a number on THAT one". <br /><br />I was later told by the OB (who came into my post-op room to yell and curse at me for trying to homebirth a bit more) that I was lucky my baby wasn't taken away and he had the power to do so. He also snidely mentioned my nudity when trying to push. When I responded by stating the fact that I was trying to birth, he laughed, told me I had better learn when to keep my mouth closed and left the room.<br /><br />They kept my baby away from me for HOURS. They gave her formula and a shot in the nursery without my consent.<br /><br />When I finally got my daughter, I DID NOT PUT HER DOWN UNTIL I LEFT. One of the nurse reported a bonding problem. There was quite obviously no bonding problem whatsoever.<br /><br />The hospital reported my midwife for "practicing medicine without a license." They reported me to some Children and Youth group for endangering my baby. About two weeks post partum an ex-police officer showed up at my door to "investigate" at my homebirth attempt for the State.<br /><br />I am having an hba2c for this birth. I will transfer to the hospital if I feel the need and face whatever they dish out. I don't want a certain "birth experience" at any cost, I just want to birth my baby safely and, if possible, safe from abuse and harm.<br /><br />NAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com